JaxLug Road Trip

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JaxLug Road Trip

inkrypto

2013-05-06 12:41:30 UTC

The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.

The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-deliberately-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's
insanely good.

http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143

This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.

If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The
distance sucks but we'll make it entertaining.

-Brent

inkrypto

2013-05-06 17:12:59 UTC

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It depends on how many people we get going. But the basics per person
would be:

$40 class
$20 gas
$110 room
*$80 food*
$250

Around there.

What would be the total cost? (transportation,lodging, etc)
I have yet to come to a meeting in jax but I am interested

Post by inkrypto
The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on

May

Post by inkrypto
18th.
The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<

http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-deliberately-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10

Post by inkrypto
project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's
insanely good.
http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143
This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.
If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The
distance sucks but we'll make it entertaining.
-Brent

What would be the total cost? (transportation,lodging, etc)
I have yet to come to a meeting in jax but I am interested

Post by inkrypto
The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on

May

Post by inkrypto
18th.
The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<

http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-deliberately-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10

Mike Rathburn

2013-05-06 19:07:44 UTC

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JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.

-----Original Message-----
From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip

The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.

The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.

http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143

This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.

If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.

-Brent

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inkrypto

2013-05-06 23:38:05 UTC

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damn that sounds better!

What do you mean 3 seats in your car?

Post by Mike Rathburn
JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip
The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.
The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<
http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.
http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143
This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.
If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.
-Brent
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Mike Rathburn

2013-05-06 23:40:44 UTC

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The drive to Orlando International and back. Need to be on the road by
6:30am Friday morning.

From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:38 PM
To: mike-***@public.gmane.org; JaxLUG
Subject: Re: JaxLug Road Trip

damn that sounds better!

What do you mean 3 seats in your car?

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Mike Rathburn <mike-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.

-----Original Message-----
From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip

The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.

The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the

Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-deliberately-vulne
rable-php-owasp-top-10>
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.

I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.

http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143

This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For

Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>

.

If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.

-Brent

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inkrypto

2013-05-07 12:48:49 UTC

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Mike has found the best deal. $149.00 each way out of Orlando to
Louisville.

Still the same dates. Leave Friday come back Sunday.

Who's in?

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From: Mike Rathburn <mike-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: JaxLug Road Trip
To: JaxLUG <list-QVYiWngmsdMdnm+***@public.gmane.org>

JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.

-----Original Message-----
From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip

The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.

The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.

http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143

This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.

If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.

-Brent

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Mike Rathburn

2013-05-07 13:02:49 UTC

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And you may want to jump on it today, like right now! After that you'll
fall into the seven day window and the price will jump.

The Quality Inn and Suites on Bardstown Rd in Louisville is $55/night. I
have an SUV rental lined up already to get us back and forth to the college.

-----Original Message-----
From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:49 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: Fwd: JaxLug Road Trip

Mike has found the best deal. $149.00 each way out of Orlando to
Louisville.

Still the same dates. Leave Friday come back Sunday.

Who's in?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mike Rathburn <mike-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: JaxLug Road Trip
To: JaxLUG <list-QVYiWngmsdMdnm+***@public.gmane.org>

JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.

-----Original Message-----
From: inkrypto [mailto:inkrypto-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip

The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.

The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.

http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143

This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.

If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.

-Brent

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Brent Morris

2013-05-07 21:17:51 UTC

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Right now it's me, Mike and Mathew. If you want to go let me know ASAP!

I spoke to Jeremy today and the class can hold 90 people.

Brent

Post by Mike Rathburn
And you may want to jump on it today, like right now! After that you'll
fall into the seven day window and the price will jump.
The Quality Inn and Suites on Bardstown Rd in Louisville is $55/night. I
have an SUV rental lined up already to get us back and forth to the college.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:49 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: Fwd: JaxLug Road Trip
Mike has found the best deal. $149.00 each way out of Orlando to
Louisville.
Still the same dates. Leave Friday come back Sunday.
Who's in?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: JaxLug Road Trip
JAX-LOU-JAX is a long brutal 24 hours in a car. Southwest has nonstop to
Louisville and back out of Orlando for $300 roundtrip leaving 10am Friday
and returning 5pm Sunday. I have 3 seats available in my car.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:42 AM
To: JaxLUG
Subject: JaxLug Road Trip
The ISSA Kentucky Chapter is having a web pen-testing training class on May
18th.
The class is taught by Jeremy Druin, who is the lead on the
Mutillidae<http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mutillidae/mutillidae-delibera
tely-vulnerable-php-owasp-top-10>project.
I've worked with him on web hacking challenges before and he's insanely
good.
http://issa-kentuckiana.org/?page_id=143
This type of class at BlackHat would easily cost over $1000.00. However,
they are offering it for a $40 donation to Hackers For
Charity<http://www.hackersforcharity.org/>
.
If you're interested in going please let me know. We leave on May 17th.
Drive up there. Go to the class. Then coming back on Sunday. The distance
sucks but we'll make it entertaining.
-Brent
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Steve Litt

2013-05-08 19:01:12 UTC

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On Mon, 6 May 2013 15:07:44 -0400

Long, long trip. And you'd better not traverse Atlanta at any time
resembling rush hour.

But keep in mind that these days, anything involving an airplane is
also a long brutal trip, quite apart from the time actually spent in
the airplane. You need to arrive at the airport at least 2 hours early.
You need to find parking at the airport. The plane will likely be late.
You need to take time out to rent a car on the far end, or take cabs. A
30 minute flight could end up being six hours.

If any of you is larger than usual, keep in mind that, from what I hear,
Southwest has the strictest size restrictions on passengers. If their
seatbelt doesn't fit your waist, you don't go -- no extender, no
nothing.

Personally, I would gladly make a 12 hour drive to save the hassle of
air travel.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Rafael Troncoso

2013-05-08 19:18:23 UTC

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Steve,
you forgot to mention the airplane could crash too! Man! I wonder how many
spare tires you have in your car... just in case :) A lot of things can
wrong driving a car too.

Post by Steve Litt
On Mon, 6 May 2013 15:07:44 -0400

Long, long trip. And you'd better not traverse Atlanta at any time
resembling rush hour.
But keep in mind that these days, anything involving an airplane is
also a long brutal trip, quite apart from the time actually spent in
the airplane. You need to arrive at the airport at least 2 hours early.
You need to find parking at the airport. The plane will likely be late.
You need to take time out to rent a car on the far end, or take cabs. A
30 minute flight could end up being six hours.
If any of you is larger than usual, keep in mind that, from what I hear,
Southwest has the strictest size restrictions on passengers. If their
seatbelt doesn't fit your waist, you don't go -- no extender, no
nothing.
Personally, I would gladly make a 12 hour drive to save the hassle of
air travel.
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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Steve Litt

2013-05-08 21:05:02 UTC

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I've taken many 600 mile one day trips and only once had a serious car
problem. On planes, I regularly have delays, missed connections,
almost-lost wallets while putting myself back together after stripping
for the feds, and for the past five years I've never had a plane trip
that involved less than four hours of non-plane time. And you guys are
driving 3 hours just to get to Orlando.

If you drive, you're pretty darn sure you'll get there on time. In a
plane, not so much.

Steve

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

On Wed, 8 May 2013 15:18:23 -0400

Post by Rafael Troncoso
Steve,
you forgot to mention the airplane could crash too! Man! I wonder how
many spare tires you have in your car... just in case :) A lot of
things can wrong driving a car too.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Steve Litt

Post by Steve Litt
On Mon, 6 May 2013 15:07:44 -0400

Long, long trip. And you'd better not traverse Atlanta at any time
resembling rush hour.
But keep in mind that these days, anything involving an airplane is
also a long brutal trip, quite apart from the time actually spent in
the airplane. You need to arrive at the airport at least 2 hours
early. You need to find parking at the airport. The plane will
likely be late. You need to take time out to rent a car on the far
end, or take cabs. A 30 minute flight could end up being six hours.
If any of you is larger than usual, keep in mind that, from what I
hear, Southwest has the strictest size restrictions on passengers.
If their seatbelt doesn't fit your waist, you don't go -- no
extender, no nothing.
Personally, I would gladly make a 12 hour drive to save the hassle
of air travel.
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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Austin L. Denyer

2013-05-10 00:15:35 UTC

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Post by Steve Litt
I've taken many 600 mile one day trips and only once had a serious
car problem. On planes, I regularly have delays, missed
connections, almost-lost wallets while putting myself back together
after stripping for the feds, and for the past five years I've
never had a plane trip that involved less than four hours of
non-plane time. And you guys are driving 3 hours just to get to
Orlando.

Well, Jax to Louisville is rather more than 600 miles. The shortest
practical route by road is I-10 -> I-75 -> I-24 -> I-65 via Atlanta,
Chattanooga and Nashville. It's 767 miles (11 hours 19 mins) according
to Google Maps. That's a loooong drive if you have to be alert for a
class the next day. Not that it's not doable, just no fun.

In their case, they can get a direct flight from Orlando to Louisville,
so they don't have to worry about missed connections. And although in
this case they can car-pool, if they were making the trip individually
at current gas prices, they could probably fly cheaper than they could
drive.

I hope to be there myself, and I will be driving, though in my case I
now live in Kentucky anyway, so it's only about 200 miles for me.

Post by Steve Litt
If you drive, you're pretty darn sure you'll get there on time. In
a plane, not so much.

I try to avoid flying too, if only out of protest at the ridiculous TSA
crap. Although I'm a Linux Geek for my day job, I'm a firearms
instructor in my copious free time, so pretty much everything I have is
likely to contain traces of powder residue, etc...

However, in their case I would say flying makes sense. Louisville
International airport is only about 6 miles from where the class is
being held.

Regards,
Ozz.

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Post by Steve Litt
I've taken many 600 mile one day trips and only once had a serious car
problem. On planes, I regularly have delays, missed connections,
almost-lost wallets while putting myself back together after stripping
for the feds, and for the past five years I've never had a plane trip
that involved less than four hours of non-plane time. And you guys are
driving 3 hours just to get to Orlando.

Well, Jax to Louisville is rather more than 600 miles. The shortest

practical route by road is I-10 -> I-75 -> I-24 -> I-65 via Atlanta,

Chattanooga and Nashville. It's 767 miles (11 hours 19 mins) according t
o

Google Maps. That's a loooong drive if you have to be alert for a class

the next day. Not that it's not doable, just no fun.

In their case, they can get a direct flight from Orlando to Louisville, s
o

they don't have to worry about missed connections. And although in this

case they can car-pool, if they were making the trip individually at

current gas prices, they could probably fly cheaper than they could drive
..

I hope to be there myself, and I will be driving, though in my case I now

live in Kentucky anyway, so it's only about 200 miles for me.

Post by Steve Litt
If you drive, you're pretty darn sure you'll get there on time. In a
plane, not so much.

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Post by Steve Litt
I've taken many 600 mile one day trips and only once had a serious car
problem. On planes, I regularly have delays, missed connections,
almost-lost wallets while putting myself back together after stripping
for the feds, and for the past five years I've never had a plane trip
that involved less than four hours of non-plane time. And you guys are
driving 3 hours just to get to Orlando.

Well, Jax to Louisville is rather more than 600 miles. The shortest

practical route by road is I-10 -> I-75 -> I-24 -> I-65 via Atlanta,

Chattanooga and Nashville. It's 767 miles (11 hours 19 mins) according t
o

Google Maps. That's a loooong drive if you have to be alert for a class

the next day. Not that it's not doable, just no fun.

In their case, they can get a direct flight from Orlando to Louisville, s
o

they don't have to worry about missed connections. And although in this

case they can car-pool, if they were making the trip individually at

current gas prices, they could probably fly cheaper than they could drive
..

I hope to be there myself, and I will be driving, though in my case I now

live in Kentucky anyway, so it's only about 200 miles for me.

Post by Steve Litt
If you drive, you're pretty darn sure you'll get there on time. In a
plane, not so much.

Wayne Fay

2013-05-11 21:45:23 UTC

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Post by Steve Litt
If any of you is larger than usual, keep in mind that, from what I hear,
Southwest has the strictest size restrictions on passengers. If their
seatbelt doesn't fit your waist, you don't go -- no extender, no
nothing.

I don't know about that... The guy I was stuck next to on my last SWA
flight did NOT fit in his seat but I guess the belt fit so SWA did not
care. A good third of his body was in my seat. Fortunately I was
traveling with my 3 y/o and I cajoled him into taking that seat. He
slept most of the flight and did not care that the massively
overweight manager of a Chicago-area Taco Bell was taking up half his
seat!

Wayne

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